Dakota Fanning is questionable

i’m not happy about dakota fanning in a rape scene because i wont b able 2 c th movie thn and thts gross…atleast i thnk so.
i thnk its sick in wrong cuz theres sumthngs tht ppl just dont do an thts 1 of em

i am sich and tired of hollywood being exempt from the laws that the average man or woman have been sent to prison on………to me, showing a 12 year old naked whether its in a movie or someones personal photos is wrong….they say we have these laws because the kids dont know right from wrong and does extensive phsycological harm…if dakota fanning, at 12, knows right from wrong, whose to say other kids dont….all im saying, is if the act of a 12 year old posing nude or near nude is legally wrong, then the reason shouldnt matter…

This whole discussion about 12 year old girls is ridiculous. In the early days of the United States 12 and 13 year old girls were not only having sex but getting married to MEN and starting families. The laws in place about being 18 before having sex are just that a law. We are in a society that tries to “so call” protect children yet when a parent spanks a child it can get taken away from the parent. Protecting a child involves more than just keeping it from having sex. It involves discipline and punishment for breaking the rules. I agree that 12 years old is way young for sex but a lot of girls can get pregnant and are developing at that time and even the psychiatrists say that men fantasizing about girls that age is a normal thing. Everyone has to agree than when America had no laws about underage sex that the people were better people with better morals than by any of todays standards. Lets quit getting in an uproar about this insignificant thing and talk more about things that matter. Such as why it cost me $75.00 to fill up my vehicle with gas. Get a grip people!!!!

If people are going to use the Bible, use the New Test. after Jesus came. The Old Test has old rules before He came, and things like:
19:32 Come, let us make our father drink wine, and we will lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father.
Are not instructions. They are part of the story being told.
There is a big differences between the stories of the Bible and the instructions of it.
So go by what Jesus says, not what other stories tell.
For example, if you read the story of the beaten man left for dead, and everyone walks by him, are you going to do the same? Or are you going to be the Good Samaritan that helps him?

CORRECTED: So the movie is about a little girl with a nightmarish existance and finds hope in the music of Elvis?? “Frankly”, That sounds like one of the crapiest plots I’ve ever heard of. I still think they should have used an actress that was a little older for that part. By the way, I don’t think anyone needs Hollywood to inform them of the fact that some children are abused. I also have not seen any post accusing Fanning of being the antichrist. Her parents are just morons not evil. They think like some other morons think that art is some medium that should be immune to ridicule. If art is sooo great why is it so often used to offend other people? People preach peace and defend offensive and violent films at the same time!?!?!? I think this movie has as much chance to cause damage as it does to do anything good for humanity.

So the movie is about a little girl with a nightmarish existance? “Frankly”, That sounds like one of the crapiest plots I’ve ever heard of. I still think they should have used an actress that was a little older for that part. By the way, I don’t think anyone needs Hollywood to inform them of the fact that some children are abused. I also have not seen any post accusing Fanning of being the antichrist. Her parents are just morons not evil. They think like some other morons think that art is some medium that should be immune to ridicule. If art is sooo great why is it so often used to offend other people? People preach peace and defend offensive and violent films at the same time!?!?!? I think this movie has as much chance to cause damage as it does to do anything good for humanity.

In case you people haven’t noticed this movie is about a young girl who’s childhood was a nightmarish exsistance. And guess what!? She finds hope in the form of the infamous musical talent of Elvis Presley. How horrifing. [/smartass]

And yes, there is a rape scene, but no explict act is shown. You hear various noises, and see a flurry of limbs, but that is as far as it goes.

So, frankly, stop acting like Dakota is the Anti-Christ, and realize that this movie might actually be a good thing.

Anything to do with children and sex like this is anyway is wrong! This type of filming is not right and should never have been alowed. Children are beautiful and should be cared for not abused. Anyone who says that this is ok in just not in their right mind.

Oh yeah Tim To answer your question on whether that biblical quote affects children. I can only say that I was also circumsized and it has not affected me. Im willing to bet you were not and are assuming there is some negative affect on those who have been. ……..I think you missed again but im not sure. :)

To Tim. Now it’s medical pictures and footage that your compairing to child porn? Im sorry to say this but……YOUR INSANE!! I think you need to seek help with your hate for christians (Which I am not) You seem to really hate them. How about mentioning that some religions actually remove parts of the female sexual organs in order to remove the pleasure she feels during sex? You seem smart, I can only assume that you have heard of this practice. But NO you think everyone who has a problem with the exploitation of children in films is a christian. Look pal they are not the only ones who think youth is precious to some degree. You should seek help to figure out what the real problem you have with them is. This is not a religeous argument it’s about kids and the adults who exploit them for $$$. It is clear that just to spite the Christians you think child sexual exploitation is fine. Well forgive me sir but your NUTS! Again i think you have missed the point. Or maybe the point doesnt matter. You just see a chance to bash Christians. Your a hater and that aint a good thing.

To kevin who commented on my previous post

Does this passage from the bible effect children.

17:13 He that is born in thy house, and he that is bought with thy money, must needs be circumcised: and my covenant shall be in your flesh for an everlasting covenant.
17:14 And the uncircumcised man child whose flesh of his foreskin is not circumcised, that soul shall be cut off from his people; he hath broken my covenant.

Who gives permission to cut off parts of a young male childs sexual organ without his consent? Parents. Who allows pictures and videos and drawings of this procdure be posted on the internet.Who does? parents and doctors.Do a google search with the key words ” circumcision ” under video or pictures. If you can watch these videos and look at these pictures without being upset because it is real child abuse then you are as sick as the next person and you have no right to judge others if you agree with doing this to a child.Oh and since google.youtube,and many other sites show a male childs penis being touched and moved by an adult while they cut slash and remove parts of his penis with many types of medical insturments would that not be child porno and abuse.Please report these site right away. Or is this okay with you.

I forgot its okay because the bible says its ok.

I just think people are judging others when they abuse without thought in the name of religion.Give Dakota and family a break

It seems we have alot of pro-child porn people here. Wow it really is way more of a problem than i thought. Try try try to make this issue into some other issue all you want. It’s as simple as this. Either you thnk its ok for 12 year old girls to be naked and in sexual scenes with adults or you don’t. Thats it. Choose your side. This is not a Christian thing. This is a basic moral conflict, thats it. I am sure Christians arent going to be the only ones outraged when some guy says he saw this movie and it turned him on so he raped a little girl. Not saying the movie would be to blame. Im just making a point that everyone should care about the sexual exploitation of children. If you don’t than I thinks you are an animal and should be treated as such. To the cage with you.

Soooo. Were quoting the Bible to justify child porn. Ya know if you were to make a rape seen like this yourself using your own child and put it on the internet you would be put in jail. But since it’s Hollywood it’s ok. That passage about incest in the Bible is a story not a film there are no actul children being exploited there. That makes all that typing and Bible study you did meaningless. They are absolutly not the same thing. I can write all the child porn stories I want. But the minute i exploit a child is the minute I should be locked up without question. One has to wonder about your intentions. I believe you saw a chance to take a shot at Christians……You missed.

For all the christians and so called church people in here bashing the film hounddog and dakota fannings family here is some words from the bible.You must be warned this is “sick stuff”.

Genesis 19

19:32 Come, let us make our father drink wine, and we will lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father.
19:33 And they made their father drink wine that night: and the firstborn went in, and lay with her father; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose.
19:34 And it came to pass on the morrow, that the firstborn said unto the younger, Behold, I lay yesternight with my father: let us make him drink wine this night also; and go thou in, and lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father. The Seduction of Lot
19:35 And they made their father drink wine that night also: and the younger arose, and lay with him; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose.
19:36 Thus were both the daughters of Lot with child by their father.

Exodus 4

24 At a lodging place on the way, the LORD met {Moses} and was about to kill him. 25 But Zipporah took a flint knife, cut off her son’s foreskin and touched {Moses’} feet with it.”Surely you are a bridegroom of blood to me,” she said. 26 So the LORD let him alone.(At that time she said “bridegroom of blood,” referring to circumcision.)

“A flint knife wow that had to hurt her son real bad” “and then she touched moses with her sons removed foreskin”"sick sick sick” I would never allow a child to read this stuff.

these are but a few of the many graphic and sexual readings you may find in the bibles. Remember children are read and taught this stuff.HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN THIS STUFF TO KIDS.Mabey we should ban children from reading the bible and remove from all public places then never allow any one under 18 years old to read such things.Who is the sick people now.

Now keep your mouths shut before you promote those that seek to destroy good people like dakota fanning and her family.

And since we’re on a roll here, my dear Hollywood, a 7 year old snorting methamphetamines until she kills herself would make such a wonderful premise for a film - a child drug addict.

Seriously, though, there is absolutely NOTHING tasteful about a child rape scene. And what’s even sadder is that people are fucking stupid enough to buy it. I’m sure the people saying this have obviously never been raped or molested.

whatever… if YOU can go through a rape scene and be entirely grown up and smooth about it, then you have rrom to talk, other than that, you dont even know her so back off!!!

I’m so tired of all this. STOP GLORIFYING CHILDREN! Everyone screams to “protect” them, oh yeah! Go out in the streets then and stop all the violence going on among the dark corners of our world! And for all of you americans: The day you ban all weapons among civilians, then maybe we can discuss to “protect” children from sex and whatever! SEX is NOT something perverted! And yes, I have a daughter at 10, and the way I will protect her from bad things, is to learn her to be a strong and independent individual, with as much knowledge about our world as possible. NOT by glorifying and “protecting”, as in scaring her and hiding her from the world.

Dakota is a minor: The law is clear, no one can make that decision to perform for her, and she cannot as well. It is sick. It is not merely a body. Here is the law from Title 18 of the United States Code:

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§ 2256. Definitions for chapter
How Current is This?

For the purposes of this chapter, the term—
(1) “minor” means any person under the age of eighteen years;
(2)
(A) Except as provided in subparagraph (B), “sexually explicit conduct” means actual or simulated—
(i) sexual intercourse, including genital-genital, oral-genital, anal-genital, or oral-anal, whether between persons of the same or opposite sex;
(ii) bestiality;
(iii) masturbation;
(iv) sadistic or masochistic abuse; or
(v) lascivious exhibition of the genitals or pubic area of any person;
(B) For purposes of subsection 8(B) [1] of this section, “sexually explicit conduct” means—
(i) graphic sexual intercourse, including genital-genital, oral-genital, anal-genital, or oral-anal, whether between persons of the same or opposite sex, or lascivious simulated sexual intercourse where the genitals, breast, or pubic area of any person is exhibited;
(ii) graphic or lascivious simulated;
(I) bestiality;
(II) masturbation; or
(III) sadistic or masochistic abuse; or
(iii) graphic or simulated lascivious exhibition of the genitals or pubic area of any person;
(3) “producing” means producing, directing, manufacturing, issuing, publishing, or advertising;
(4) “organization” means a person other than an individual;
(5) “visual depiction” includes undeveloped film and videotape, and data stored on computer disk or by electronic means which is capable of conversion into a visual image;
(6) “computer” has the meaning given that term in section 1030 of this title;
(7) “custody or control” includes temporary supervision over or responsibility for a minor whether legally or illegally obtained;
(8) “child pornography” means any visual depiction, including any photograph, film, video, picture, or computer or computer-generated image or picture, whether made or produced by electronic, mechanical, or other means, of sexually explicit conduct, where—
(A) the production of such visual depiction involves the use of a minor engaging in sexually explicit conduct;
(B) such visual depiction is a digital image, computer image, or computer-generated image that is, or is indistinguishable from, that of a minor engaging in sexually explicit conduct; or
(C) such visual depiction has been created, adapted, or modified to appear that an identifiable minor is engaging in sexually explicit conduct.
(9) “identifiable minor”—
(A) means a person—
(i)
(I) who was a minor at the time the visual depiction was created, adapted, or modified; or
(II) whose image as a minor was used in creating, adapting, or modifying the visual depiction; and
(ii) who is recognizable as an actual person by the person’s face, likeness, or other distinguishing characteristic, such as a unique birthmark or other recognizable feature; and
(B) shall not be construed to require proof of the actual identity of the identifiable minor.
(10) “graphic”, when used with respect to a depiction of sexually explicit conduct, means that a viewer can observe any part of the genitals or pubic area of any depicted person or animal during any part of the time that the sexually explicit conduct is being depicted; and
(11) the term “indistinguishable” used with respect to a depiction, means virtually indistinguishable, in that the depiction is such that an ordinary person viewing the depiction would conclude that the depiction is of an actual minor engaged in sexually explicit conduct. This definition does not apply to depictions that are drawings, cartoons, sculptures, or paintings depicting minors or adults.

Under the law, it is child pornography even if the person is of majority age but made to look like someone underaged.

These laws exist to protect children and society. Please not that sadism or abuse alone with children constitutes child pornography–the lack of nudity is immaterial.

I hope all involved are appropriately charged with the manufacturing and distribution of child pornography.

(A) Except as provided in subparagraph (B), “sexually explicit conduct” means actual or simulated—
(i) sexual intercourse, including genital-genital, oral-genital, anal-genital, or oral-anal, whether between persons of the same or opposite sex;
(ii) bestiality;
(iii) masturbation;
(iv) sadistic or masochistic abuse; or
(v) lascivious exhibition of the genitals or pubic area of any person;

Simulated sadistic or masochistic abuse of a minor–even if clothed constitutes Child pornography.

To all Federal Law enforcement officers monitoring this site: You have sworn to uphold the laws and the constitution of the United States. I have shown you the specific statutes under Title 18, Part 1, chapter 10, section 2256. Do your duty and arrest these child pornographers, and get that poor child in the hands of someone loving who will care for the proper upbringing of that precious life.

“Tasteful” rape scene? Are you kidding?

when will that movie come out?
dakota fanning nude.. wow.. why is no one exited?

Dakota Fanning is a brilliant actress, and she did such a good job in man on fire, this 12 year old has more talent the any other actress lately!

I am a big Dakota Fanning fan and am not thrilled about a rape scene with Dakota
or about animals being hurt or killed just for the reason that i try to see all Dakota,s movies ill see it but i swear ill more than likely be closing my eyes or turning my head during that scene . Ive grown quite fond of Dakota over the years
and know truthfully even though its really a movie and just acting i am going to hate to see her going threw such a horrible ordeal if if it is just acting just the thought of her being hurt disturbs me emencely.I however do believe nether her mom or her agent would let her be hurt just so she can get an oscar thats obsurd

I for one would find this a very disturbing scene to watch
but i dont believe that Dakota,s mother or agent would
allow anything imoral to take place i would hate to even think of such a thing but it,s just a movie any of Dakota,s
movies are great but i think id close my eyes during that scene ive grown to fond of Dakota to be able to watch such a horrible thing id hate the scene but it,s only a movie thank God

MohammaD

WHO THE BLEEP CARES!!!!!

Killing animals?! no way man I am NOT watching that movie. However the rape scene sounds even worse …

This is ridiculous in my opinion; I disagree very much with some comments made. I believe that most 12, 13 year old children understand the concept of rape, and it is crazy to think that they are too young to understand. One of my best friends who was a fairly normal kid had lost her virginity at age 13. It is not like it is a distant world to kids these age. Dakota is not being brave, she justs wants an Oscar for being raped on screen. And of course she isnt ACTUALLY losing her virginity, thats just absurd. I think that depicting the rape of a child on screen though is very wrong and just too disturbing for audiences. Sure, it can be implied, but the fact that they show a scene of Fanning screaming and the fact that it is the raping of such a small child, is just too extreme for me.

What about Jodie Foster in “Taxi Driver” or when she “appears” nude in “Little Girl Who Lives Down The Lane”…Brooke Shields in “Pretty Baby” “Blue Lagoon” “Endless Love” all were controversial at the time. Yet these two actresses are big time stars and have managed to keep the heads together and their feet on the ground. Yes, Dakota is a child, but in the world we all live in today, I’m pretty sure she knows what the movie is about and understands that this is a job and that she is “acting”, she is a professional. Movies are quite clever now…the use of body doubles, make-up, ditgital special effects, green screen all can make what’s happening on the big screen more realistic than the act in real life itself. I think that although she is 12 she is probably wise beyond her years and has to be given a little more credit for being able to decide if she wants to take on a brutal, but all too real subject that is very prevelant in our society today. So I say go Dakota, and I hope to see you in more movies with important subject matter as you grow up in your craft.

I’ve already raped Dakota and it was nothing special.

The point is that a 12 year old cannot make a decision to do this on their own. Her mother and agent both watched on as a 12 year old was told to get naked and simulate a violent sexual act in front of a room full of people while cameras were rolling.
It’s bad enough when you’re a child actor and your first kiss is on screen for everyone to see, (and not something that happened naturally for you to remember the rest of your life) but to have to depict something so sexual and viltent is just child abuse. What happened to the days where things were suggested? What about using a body double? It’s kiddi porn to have a 12 year old even topless in front of a camera and a room full of crew.
Shame on her minders who can only see an oscar in her future, and not the repercussions of their decision.

Good grief people, it’s called acting for a reason!!!! And so what if a 12 year old is naked? Get over it already! It’s not supposed to turn you on, it’s just a body for pete’s sake! Good for Dakota to do something different than every other prissy little girl who’s being protected from real life by playing dress up and pretending they matter to the world when all they do is play-act in front of a camera. Nothing is gained without risk. Risk expanding your mind and throw out your pre-conceived notions about how a 12 year old is “supposed” to be. Risk believing that child rape and abuse is a real problem and having someone whose face is constantly flashed all over magazines throughout the world might bring some attention to the issue by pretending she’s living the horror so many poor kids (boys and girls alike) face daily.

Good grief people, it’s called acting for a reason!!!! And so what if a 12 year old is naked? Get over it already! It’s not supposed to turn you on, it’s just a body for pete’s sake! Good for Dakota to do something different than every other prissy little girl who’s being protected from real life by playing dress up and pretending they matter to the world when all they do is play-act in front of a camera. Nothing is gained without risk. Risk expanding your mind and throw out your pre-conceived notions about how a 12 year old is “supposed” to be. Risk believing that child rape and abuse is a real problem and having someone whose face is constantly flashed all over magazines throughout the world might bring some attention to the issue by pretending she’s living the horror so many poor kids (boys and gilrs alike) face daily.

why?

why would anyone even make a movie of this? I can see writing a book because they don’t have real life characters.

But Dakota Fanning is such an incredible actor and whenever or where ever her name is going to be mentioned, this movie is going to come up. Its like Johnny Depp and POTC. You’ll always look at Depp as being a pirate. Now your going to think of child porno whenever Dakota Fanning is mentioned.

And as for Dakota, she’s going to have to live with this memory of the movie for the rest of her life. Its going to affect her career and personal life, cause HELLO! she posed nude at the age of 12 for the whole world to see. Again; WHY????

Why can’t she just stick to roles like I am Same, Cat and the Hat, or Charlottes Web for now. If she wants to, maybe when she’s older like 16, or something like that. Movies that have roles like that shouldn’t be played, unless they get paid for mental councelling or (don’t know the procedure name, but when they erase parts from your brain)

THIS SHOULDN’T BE HAPPENING!!

Am I to understand that Dakota Fanning lost her virginity during the filming of a rape scene? I don’t believe such things can be “faked”, so the idea is even more disturbing.

And what’s this about an animal being killed on screen? Isn’t there anyone to say “no” to such things?

Am I getting my information wrong, or is this going to be one truly sickening movie?

IT’S WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dakota is my fav actor. She’s cute. But who wants to see a 12 year old nude.

someone better not tell me how to find the perv that talked this child into doing this crap.

exactly how much money do her parents need to have???

I think Dakota is brave for doing this scene. braver than me I’ll admit She is just a beatufil child and I can’t even image why some would want to hurt her.
I saw her in the Cat in the Hat and she was so cute. The cat in the Hat and Dreaner are the only two movies I have that consider her in it.

Well Dakota just keep up the good work and just keep on acting which I know you will do. Good Luck.

Child molesters are going to LOVE this movie. Can you imagine your daughters image being masturbated to over and over again during the rape scene? This will be forever immortalized. Now Dakota has become jacking material to deviants. Honest to God, Joy Fanning and Cindy Osbrink have lost their minds? This makes me sick. Answer me people, who in their right mind want’s to see a child raped even in simulation? Especially Dakota Fanning depicting it? A few people say good for her. But tell me, isn’t it going to be a little emotionally painful watching her in that scene? And anyone who’s familiar with her acting abilities, knows she’ll put on one hell of a show, almost too real–what a “mind phuck” (no pun intended) How in the hell can you have that kind of scene tastefully done? You can’t. I really, really, like the kid–she’s an incredible actress. But I don’t want to her being savaged like that, Hollywood simulation or not. If this is the kind of crap that her camp has for her future; sexually charged films, then I don’t want to see any more of her work–it’s too weird for me. The Dakota Fanning I used to know ended with Man on Fire, Dreamer, and War of The Worlds. I would love to know what her peers are REALLY thinking privately. You know this has to be bothering some of them. Anyway, if Dakota should ever see this, I hate to give you up kiddo, but things are getting a little too strange in your camp. Good luck, I will always admire you, and you’ll always have a place in my heart.

“Tasteful rape scene” I agree sounds rediculous as there is nothing tasteful about rape whether it be real or acting. I gather what was meant here is that the rape scene is not too graphic? Well, I choose to give the writer the benefit of the doubt ..
I have mixed feelings about Dakota in this role because of her age, but I adore her and fully intend to see the film.

I think that what Dakota is doing is huge. It’s a huge desicion for a small child to make. Children dont understand the idea of rape, until they are older. This world is full of perverts who commit such an act all the time. I think that if she is comfortable with the scene and the movie, then its her choice, shes young, but shes human. I agree GO DAKOTA!!!

Dakota Fanning deserves a lot of credit that you people are to “wrapped up in the rape scenes” to see. She is taking on a role that most children would be to afraid to do, and that most people would not want to see. It is hard to see a child get raped, weather it be real or in a movie, but unfortunatly in this world child rape happens every day, and all this movie is doing is making people more aware, and able to feel a small portion of what some families of child rape and murder feel every moment of their life. GO DAKOTA!!!!!

Think of the children! Oh won’t somebody please think of the children!!!

Are they serious? A tasteful rape scene? Oh, wait - a tasteful CHILD rape scene? Who in the hell considers this entertainment, anyway? What kind of parent allows their “child star” to be put in these roles? Parents are supposed to protect their children!