The Blemish

Edison Chen / Gillian Chung sex scandal

January 30th, 20085,169 comments

Edison Chen

Update: Apparently, this is huge news in Hong Kong, China and Taiwan because these people are major stars there. Earlier, the foreign papers reported these as fake, even showing how they could be photoshopped, but after all these new pictures came out, they’ve relented somewhat.

My knowledge of celebrity doesn’t extend too far beyond English speaking countries, so I don’t know much about it. Just that, now, more pictures have come out of these girls and include one more girl, Cecilia Cheung and… CHRIST ALMIGHTY, IS THAT THING ALIVE DOWN THERE? Kill it! Kill it!

Trivia: Edison was in Infernal Affairs which was subsequently remade by Martin Scorsese into The Departed.

Edison Chen stars in the Grudge 2 and possibly The Dark Knight and will be in the upcoming Hayden Christensen movie Jumper. And he’s also in these nude photos with two girls that go by the names Gillian Chung (vaj shot) and Bobo Chan (??). I figure some of you know who they are. I have no idea. I just want to say to the ladies letting their partners take pictures of them in a state of undress, please, for the love of god, wax or at the very least trim. Every time I see these sex scandal pictures I always feel like I need a safari hat and machete just to make it through all of them. By the way, the pictures are NSFW. A lot more after the jump.

Updates will appear on the main page from now on. Go here for that.

If you’re interested in Asian/Asian-American media/gossip, check out Smatterist.

Every picture so far: here.

Bobo Chan’s: [M | R]

Untagged: Gillian, Cecilie & Vincy: [Mega | Rapid | Zshare]

02/21/08

Edison Chen announces he is quitting Hong Kong showbiz.

02/16/08

Edison Chen has delayed his return to Hong Kong.

02/14/08

Two new pictures of Rachel and Bobo have been leaked which should give hope to some that Kira hasn’t been paid off.

Johnny says a 10 second Edison Chen and Vincy sex video has been released. No sign of it yet, but if true, should be pretty widespread soon.

02/13/08

The most complete set so far. [Rapid]

Labyrinth translated an earlier comment from Hade. It sounds far-fetched, but it’s a fun piece if you’re into conspiracy theories.

Latest News!
Kira received 7 million HK dollars, disappears forever.
Beijing, Feb 12, 2008

The curtain has dropped: According to friends in HK, all the photos we have seen thus far were screen captures from videos. Gill’s photos were the first 10 minutes of the video, why? Because it was a used as a bargaining chip for extortion. Secondly, the audio of the video involves the reputation of many other big-name celebrities.
Gaoqing (who?) has over 1000 photos alone, and they were partially released last year. The first time Edison’s photo got released was the result of a hacker. This hacker has the most complete data. In order to protect himself from hackers and trojans, he transferred part of his data to his Apple computer. Apple does not run Windows, and most trojan are designed towards windows. The photos that were stolen during his computer repair is only a small part, and that is to the person we come to know as Kira. Photos of Vincy Yeung released on the 9th was unexpected from EEG Music. As we know, Edison’s photo all came in a set, and every women has a complete collection including the sexual parts. Usually they are released in few numbers first, then released in completion. So Vincy has a complete collection too.

Kira’s upload on the 9th, 4:45 is the last upload from Kira. He had an agreement with EEG in the amount of 700 hk dollars. Why did Gill’s manager said Gill would appear on the 11th? Because they have came to an agreement with Kira. After the money is received he needs 24 hours to confirm payment, also time for him to flee. As a matter of fact, the photos he has have already been uploaded to various free servers in the United States and Europe. If the discussion does not fall into place or if anything were to happen to him, he has set automatic emails that would email the links to his trustworthy friends, so they can spread the files. The reason Gill appears in front of the media on the 11th, and the fact that she had a big smile on her face, was because she knew the ordeal has came to a rest.

What’s Kira’s gain for showing us the photos? What does he get by destroying the life of these celebrities? He is not a warrior of morals, he’s just a regular Hong Kong citizen. Money is his ultimate choice. So everyone, please stop calling for him, he has disappears forever. From tomorrow, there’s a lot more entertainers going to entertain us, and the danger is over. It is disappointed for us, but we all know the reason behind Kira’s action.

Gossip
The photos actually were stolen a long time ago. At first Kira talked to Edison, asking for 5 million HK dollars, but was not agreed upon. Edison was afraid he won’t be able to get back all the photos. He looked for Yeung Shou Cheng (EEG’s president) to help him on the matter. Eventually, Kira released some information to the media, the magazines last year briefly mentioned this matter. However because of EEG’s influential power, magazines were afraid to show the photos nor pay Kira. Through the help of magazine’s editor, one of the three members from Kira’s group was found. He knew whether he surrender the photos or not, he was doomed. He did not say anything while being question, and was eventually killed. The other two then fled to Southeast Asia, and again try to distort EEG and Edison. Befor the matter gains public attention Edison already knew, because both parties could not agree on a price, this time Kira was asking more than 10 millions. Edison took a private car to Shenzhen, then to Macau, took a private plane from his dad’s friend to the United States, and look for Vincy Yeung to help his cause. Yeung Shou Cheng thought he could handle the matter, but eventually it was still not solved. Kira has decided to raise the price, and released the photos the night when Edison fled HK. Since that day Kira has been raising his price every day. It is believed Kira is in Thailand and Indonesia, and Kira is a group of two, and the data has been uploaded to the United States.

Do not think you have seen the best of all, why hasn’t C10’s and Maggie Q’s photo being released? Because Kira hasn’t gotten the right price, or because of safety reason, there isn’t a safe way for him to get paid.

Right now, both parties are fighting. The involvement of HK police has propelled this tension to its maximum. If Kira is sure he couldn’t get his money, there’s gonna be a monster upload, but not all. The reason is because there’s heavy involvement from other celebrities, including HK, China and Taiwan. If Kira wants to live longer than Edison, he would have to have something to protect himself from.

It is obvious what is going to happen to Edison, he’s going to die unnaturally.

Vincy’s 3 photos was a declaration of power to EEG, showing Kira has even better materials. This action forced EEG to come to the table, leaving the police behind. Bobo’s photos that were uploaded today were no longer of importance, since she was only a sacrifice in this whole matter. However, Vincy, C10 and Maggie Q, definitely will not be released today. Because this is Kira’s ultimate chip. And the most controversial material in Kira’s collection? I dare not say, because I don’t want to die before Edison does.

Trust my information and do not ask me where the information is from. Use your head to decide whether this is true.

02/11/08

RC found some more info. Many of you may be interested in this post saying Kira will release 3 videos at 3 A.M. I’m still looking for a better translation. Thanks to Sean for the translation.

Today is the day when Gill will meet the fans for the first time after the scandal. I wanted to release her vid at the same time. However, due to a certain reason, I was not able to. Now I decide to release 3 vids at 3:00 am. The content are 1. the original video of the pre-released photos, and 2. some new materials that haven’t been shown in the photos before.

Be Patient!!!!!!

PS: Stop arresting the scapegoats. If you’re capable enough, come get me!

02/10/08 Part 1

All Edison Chen ads for Manhattan Titanium credit card company have been pulled as a result of the scandal. It is believed this scandal may cause Edison $10 million HK ($1.3 million US) in endorsements.

Gillian Chung will make her first public appearance since this started. She is expected to attend the annual Twin’s event with bandmate Charlene Choi to mark the Chinese New Year. Gillian will have a prepared statement and will not be taking questions regarding the photos from the press.

Cecilia Cheung’s marriage may be on the rocks. More pictures of her were released yesterday suggesting she was with both Edison and her current husband, Nicholas Tse, at the same time.

02/10/08 Part 2

According to CoolSmurf, a forum post on the Tianya.cn forums claims the video everyone has been waiting for will be posted when Gillian makes her first public appearance today.

Thank you everyone for your support. 1) I am not using the photos/videos to extort money and this is to rebuke earlier reports that I am extorting money for this. 2) What Jackie Chan said today in an interview made me very unhappy. He even goes on to say that Jackie is somewhat implicated in the video (?) It’s believed that he is responding to Jackie Chan’s plea to netizens not to care about the photos but show care for those affected by the snowstorms instead. 3) He ends by saying that video will be released the moment Gillian appears in public later this afternoon.

Jackie Chan may also be involved as he is rumored to be talking or talked to on the sex tape.

02/09/08

New sets of Bobo Chan were released today in various poses. Thanks to everyone who gave links. [M | R]

02/08/08 Part 1

The highly anticipated release of three videos and 600+ pictures by the man called “Kira” yesterday did not happen as everyone had hoped. It is possible he was out celebrating the Chinese New Year and now has a raging hangover. Meanwhile, CNN picked up the story.

The unidentified women in the pictures has been identified as Mandy Chen Yu Ju whom Edison met at a 2001 beauty pageant he performed at.

02/08/08 Part 2

Random Citations reports that Edison Chen’s sex tape with Maggie Q has been leaked and was quickly pulled off an HK forum. The video allegedly showed Edison Chen performing a sexual act (?) on top of Maggie Q who is lying on her stomach. So, the tape is out there, but not widespread as of yet.

02/08/08 Part 3

Jolin Tsai? Anyone want to confirm this? Right now, people are 99% sure this is not Jolin. Took them off to avoid confusion. Those are not of Jolin Tsai.

02/08/08 Part 4

Around four brand new sets of Gillian and Cecilia have been released. The download is from megaupload and they are highly tagged with a URL. I’m still trying to find the untagged versions, so if you come across them, let me know. Big thanks to Mr. X in the comments. Enjoy the untagged versions. with a URL. I’m still trying to find the untagged versions, so if you come across them, let me know. Big thanks to Mr. X in the comments. [Mega | Rapid | Zshare] (Vincy is 18 now, but no one knows when the pictures were taken even though the age of consent in HK is 16. Her uncle is Edison’s ex-boss and has gang affiliations. I guess that means Edison is in trouble. Thanks John!)

I’ll put up the ones with Vincy only when her age is confirmed. Age of consent is 16 in Hong Kong, but I’m in the US.

02/06/08 Part 1

A lot more pictures have been released. Around 60 new ones. That’s too many to post, but thanks to “Larry” all of them can be downloaded.

02/06/08 Part 2

The mysterious man Kira promises videos and more pictures.

02/06/08 Part 3

An uncategorized zip file of the latest Edison pictures have surfaced. What sexy man could have leaked this? In it is the “teaser” cellphone video Kira sent out. As a result of what has happened, Edison has been dropped from his upcoming movie, Jump, and Bobo Chan’s wedding has been called off. The unknown woman in the pictures is thought to be Yu Chiu, a Japanese porn star. This scandal is currently the cover story of almost every gossip rag in Hong Kong.

P.S. If you are asking people to “please e-mail you the video,” there’s a 95% chance you won’t get it. However, there is a 100% chance you will be spammed into oblivion. Therefore, if you’re curious about how to make your schlong larger, then by all means, continue what you’re doing.

02/05/08: A few more new pics. I’ve put them near the bottom.

02/04/08: Edison Chen responds in this video. He calls it a strange ordeal. Uhh huh.

02/02/08: Edison has commented for the first time on the pictures. He wrote on his blog

to all the press that have misquoted me from today’s newspaper
i would like for u to respect the situation that everyone is in and report the truth to the fullest
if u would like to say yesterday i have posted a msg CHALLENGING the people who are doing this to me then i have nothing to say but u are reporting the wrong news
please check my blog from 5 monthes ago and the top of the BLOG entry u will PROFILE DESCRIPTION that has been there from the first day my blog has been up

MY BLOG ENTRY FROM YTD was a MOVIE PICTURE release alert
not a challenge to the people who are doing this

yes in my profile i say the following

edc is edison chen…… hate the game and dun hate the player……… i am all bout unity……. but if u fucks wid me i gotsa fuck wid u….. in clot edc’s role is the FRONTLINESOLDIER….. ACT LIKE U KNOW

BUT this wasn’t posted yesterday it was posted in MAY and it is not a challenge to anyone or anything
these are lyrics from a song that i really like i do not see any harm in this and it was not directed at anyone in particular, it was a general statement

yes i have been silent and everyone thinks i am hiding but today there will be a press release and i hope u can all read from that and report the TRUTH and do some homework before trying to ruin someone’s life, cuz that is exactly whut u are all doing to me putting false statements on the FRONT PAGE of newspapers and to others as well

ONCE AGAIN
yes i have made the statement of IF U FUCKS WID ME I GOTSA FUCK WID U
this is
but i had posted this from MAY 2007
not JAN 2008
PLEASE GET YA FACTS STRAIGHT!!!!!!!!
this is not a game, this is my life…………………

to the press PLEASE wait for PRESS RELEASE that will be released later today

Four more people have been arrested bringing the total number to six. Police are still trying to figure out if the photos are fake or not. Police are also still trying to find where Waldo is. “Oh, I think I see… no, nevermind. Hmm, this is hard.”

02/01/08: Also rumored to have their pictures taken by Edison: Maggie Q and Jolin Tsai.

A Hong Kong man has been arrested in connection with the distribution of these photos. It is not clear what role he played, but 12 pictures discovered on his computer support the claim that he distributed them. Rumor is these photos were taken from Edison’s phone when he sent it along with his laptop to be repaired.

01/31/08: Added a couple more.

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theraj | January 31st, 2008 4:08 pm

wow scandalous!!! digitally altered?? yeah right, those pics look like the real deal 2 me!! thnks 4 postin the pics!! more of bobo would be a nice, she’s fit…. and btw, edison rocks!! what a stud!

 
to.ca | January 31st, 2008 3:11 pm

omg even more pics omg!

Is there a version where that last pic of Cecilia is uncensored?

omg this is big news.

Thanks for the upload.

Edison is a dick! & I hate Twins even more now!

 
Joey | January 31st, 2008 1:54 pm

I can’t believe people do believe this crap. I don’t think it real. The picture must had been fixed. No way the girls would do it.

Woolala | January 31st, 2008 6:16 pm

Come on! do u tink someone will actually fixed these pics?! with the same bunch of pics? u hvn seen much…
they deny and said were photoshop bcos of their reputation!! Doomsday!

And Its obvious, these pics are from video! If you could upload video… it’ll be great!!

em | February 8th, 2008 6:49 pm

there is no way they are fake..the polices and all the photographers claimed that they are real. You keep telling your self that to make yourself feel better

 
 
aiyah | January 31st, 2008 10:45 pm

wow… you must live in Lalaland…..

 
UFO | February 13th, 2008 9:28 am

You dun believe cuz you ain’t see nothin yet. And dun be surprise there are more doing it where you might have least expected.

 
 
LioNNuTz | January 31st, 2008 12:48 pm

its a forest down there.. they need to advocate grooming over in asia.

 
yeung | January 31st, 2008 11:58 am

thank you for sharing!! pls upload the new photos!! it’s very difficult to get these pictures!

 
jumper | January 31st, 2008 10:31 am

Wow! can get so many babes to strip for him. You cant deny Edison is good in this aspect. Mayb ABC looks are popular among the HK celeb circle.

 
musicstone | January 31st, 2008 10:44 am

FYI, Bobo is Edison ex-girlfriend a few years ago, she is a singer and actress at that time. Bobo have faded out from HK showbiz and prepare to get marriage soon..but this photo may ruined everythings!

Gillian Chung, member of the two girls group “Twins”, very very popular in HK Taiwan and China and having a lot of advertisement deal…so you can imagine the damage that can done to her!!

These photos, as some magazines in HK said, waS captured from video!

 
seon hye | January 31st, 2008 9:10 am

OH! That’s Hot!!

Thank You So Much!!

U give me answers!

Thank you!

Enjoy watching these photos!

 
KillerLEE | January 31st, 2008 9:59 am

hey where u find these pics from?
any uncensored ones?

 
Bunnypaw | January 31st, 2008 9:17 am

Edison really a”DICK”

sayingSADwithAgrin | January 31st, 2008 12:02 pm

Totally agree…nobody in HK will ever work with him…azzhole

st | January 31st, 2008 5:27 pm

I hope there are video version of it lol

 
 
 
will to the chizzle | January 31st, 2008 8:01 am

lol these pics just show how horny girls are! enough to let you shoot pics! lmao seriously tho…just because they’re stars it don’t mean they’re immune to naughty things, come on now, im sure a few of you have had pics taken for your boy and girl and its totally for you, UNLESS its a publicity stunt (which could end their careers) but lets be honest, sex is natural, edison is a prick but nonetheless, how unfortunate of me to say it…he’s human (a human prick) im glad mines bigger than his! but yeah, y’all peoples takin it too seriously, get over it chinks! (ps im chinese..british born). DEAL WITH IT

 
wien | January 31st, 2008 8:03 am

ok guys…its OVER! the man who published this pics is already caught. lets see the news tomorrow.

 
passerby | January 31st, 2008 7:54 am

last time i love edison… this is disapointing… cant imagine he do this

aiyah | January 31st, 2008 10:16 pm

this seems to be an american guys thing…they like to take pictures of their sex partners….which is normal… i don’t think you guys should blame edison.. i mean unless he was the one who posted these pictures OR he just fucked the girls as if they were nothing… i mean if he just wanted to keep a picture or 2 for his memory…then i think its fine…

cxiy | February 6th, 2008 9:51 am

Even after one of the girls gets married?
You’re gonna say its okay for him to keep pictures of someone else’s wife in bed? O_o

Cowboy | February 7th, 2008 5:10 pm

The pictures were taken a few years ago. She was still single at the time she was fucked by him.

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ssSH | February 9th, 2008 12:05 pm

i agree with that…but the poor thing is…it’s happen in asia…so it became a big problem…if he wanted to keep the pictures..he should be careful

 
 
Fran_milk | February 7th, 2008 5:07 am

i think he is so handsome , no gal will reject his request. Do you find them are so happy at that sweet moment. All the involved person should know the risk of leaking out to the public. that is the fault of Edision , he is so careless in the security of keeping the porn picture. it is so big a problem to take pic from your relationship. i think a lot of people will do so

em | February 9th, 2008 2:52 pm

i agree. It’s not so bad to take pictures but being careless of them then it’s his fault. Now he ruin all those girls’ career and even bobo’s marriage. Then at some point, he needs to take responsibility on it. I don’t think that the girls have any faults but they should think twice before they take the picture because they are star. Everyone is watching them

 
 
dorothy | February 18th, 2008 6:27 pm

forget about all movie star in Hong Kong
they are shits
I always look down on them.
they never create and do copy from others only

 
 
Michael | January 31st, 2008 6:40 am

I v found those pictures for so long time, thank you very much!!!
But I heard that there has some videoes about this, is that ture?
Can someone upload those videoes???

 
e | January 31st, 2008 1:26 am

i live in hk, and i can vouch that this is hot shit…
it’s everywhere in the papers, but everyone is crying about it and saying how it’s fake. the celebs have already given it to the cops and they’re trying to solve the case…but uploading it and such is completing illegal in hk…so thx for the share…haha

 
BIBI | January 31st, 2008 12:11 am

THANK U SO MUCH 4 THE SAHRE!

HOPE U CAN UPLOAD NEW ONE LATER!!

 
Woolala | January 30th, 2008 11:47 pm

i wan more nude pics!!

ccm | February 16th, 2008 4:30 am

be patient lah, my friend, everybody is waiting too.

 
 
noname | January 30th, 2008 10:26 pm

Oh maan, so hairy, I guess in that way they are “innocent”. I remember being in China and seeing all this armpit hair everywhere, I guess waxing isn’t popular over there. What kind of name is Bobo?

Joe Cool | January 31st, 2008 9:20 am

Yeah right … ever tried _waxing_ your armpits or private parts? LOOOOL … pls. make a video when you try to do so :D … sounds like you’re from the US :).

 
Weilene | February 5th, 2008 1:03 pm

Are you crazy, Asian men and women never shave your pubic. Its extrememly sexy, dirty, beautiful, mature and tasty with pubic hair dude. And, thats why we dont shave.

Red | February 6th, 2008 4:06 am

Hmm, I shave my pubes and I’m Asian. Been Asian all my life so am I missing out on your kind of culture then? lol… It’s prolly more about hygiene than kinky-ness or anything man.

 
Santiago | February 6th, 2008 8:56 am

Tasty? I find that disgusting.

 
Donh | February 11th, 2008 2:55 pm

Not really. Hygine is not the issue. Please read on, “In The Marriage of Heaven and Hell, William Blake wrote that “the nakedness of woman is the work of God”. In The Naked Woman, biologist Desmond Morris often argues that she is the work of evolution. In the light of a good understanding of evolution, a reader will realize that the latter interpretation is no less intriguing or poetic than Blake’s line, one that was composed in pre-Darwinian times. Morris devotes a chapter to each of the various parts of the female anatomy. Sometimes he delves too deeply into popular culture, but sticking to the strictly biological notions, here are some of the highlights.

It is unfair to think and inaccurate to think of toes as being sexually interesting only to deviants. In the absence of socks and shoes, they apparently emit unique smells capable of eliciting an erotic response. The same is true of aerated pubic hair, which is efficient in trapping and preserving such scents. Areolas also send scent-signals prior to copulation, which is an important reason why males invest time in their lover’s bosom.” ~ Desmond Morris

TygerBurningBright | February 18th, 2008 2:56 pm

?????? - This isnt Literary Theory 101; what are you trying to achieve by posting the above at THIS forum? You are seriously misguided or seriously arrogant; I suspect a little bit of both. Anyone can drop allusions and allegories…

- Love, your best friend Milton, (who is currently Lost in Paradise, vindicating Ms. Mary of all her Rights as a Woman)

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Totally | February 12th, 2008 3:26 am

ew? I’m asian and I shave too, dudeee. You don’t want pubes stuck in your teeth no? Shave or wax, women!

 
 
asian | February 10th, 2008 4:43 pm

Monkey western people.

 
 
Victor | January 30th, 2008 7:02 pm

They’re claiming fake, but there’s a whole set of pictures out there. Just not in HQ yet.

 
mao | January 30th, 2008 5:18 pm

lolz. Any other follow up news on this? I’m pretty certain these pics are real. How are their PR reps for the girls handling this? They’ve been sticking to their “innocent and pure” branding. This should be interesting.

mee | February 3rd, 2008 9:37 am

mao, I am a trained Marketeer and I reckon your background is either in Advertising, Mass Comm, Media or Marketing. Can you indulge me a little and tell me if I am right in my guess? Btw, I am from Singapore, not sure if you are a fellow-S’porean too? Just like you, I am also keen to follow the saga, especially the way it is going to be handled by all the stakeholders involved. I have a feeling we are on the same wavelength, perhaps if you want to share your thoughts, I would be keen to hear from you. Your style of writing appeals to me and I have a feeling we will click. :-)

boo | February 7th, 2008 2:51 am

lemme guess. mee is a guy who thinks mao is female?
just talkin out of my ass here. mee sounds smart but goes all the way to saying “your style of writing appeals to me” and “will click”. i got no beef with you. just think that it sounded rather desperate. as in, too quick to want to make it personal.

nee | February 7th, 2008 3:02 pm

nee thinks boo’s right, that mee’s a guy who thinks mao’s a girl and tried to do his e-pickup with a lame “let me guess your profession” line. on top of that, nee think that mee’s a loser who’s “keen to follow the [edison chan] saga” because he likes masturbating to it.

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jack | February 8th, 2008 7:00 pm

these is no video anymore

 
 
YM | February 8th, 2008 1:54 pm

It’s a PR disaster. They should not have claimed that the photos were faked in the first place. That drew a bunch of Photoshop experts to the scene and delivered crash courses on Photoshop techniques. Not to mention an even bigger audience who came for more earthly purposes than to learn Photoshop 101.

They should not have cried bloody murder in such high pitch to attract police attention. You know, police in HK are so servile these days. So they made arrests like crazy, and their false interpretation of the laws muddled the distinction between “crime and sin” which ended up attracting even more people to speculate on the what, who, when, where, and how.

You have to take a look at the sheepish smiles of the police spokesman when he clarified that sending those pics to your friends is okay, but not to the public…(Aside: so those asking for their mailbox be filled may be setting traps for you.) and that there are thousands of those pics, not just a handful.

That kicked off the witch hunt for the rest of the pics — precisely why most of us are gathering here day in and day out.

Pity that the HK police had to pull up the Interpol stunt which failed to ward off the crowd anyway.

The updated uploads are probably due more to making protests to the police’s actions than to serve the public’s interest in this matter. If the photos were taken from EDC’s hard disk back in 2006, there is high chance they’ve been spreaded around for some time already. So there’s no surprise that people more knowledgeable in Internet hide-and-seek will come up to challenge the HK police.

BTW, EDC was using a Mac — running an OS with much acclaim of its security — yet won’t stand a chance with a clean boot CD to reset the admin’s password. Probably the word “encryption” is beyond EDC’s English standard, and the product “truecrypt” escapes his technical radar screen, if any.

It’s a good PR lesson. Usually PR disaster were due to doing too little too late, with an intention to hush up. Yet this saga is totally the opposite — people are doing too much too soon and in such a loud voice too.

 
 

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